Hmm interesting hope someone has info on this? Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. On the other hand, with only Lindsey and Lilah left of Wolfram & Hart's Special Projects Team, their rivalry reached an all-time high as the two start a power struggle for the vice-presidency of the team as at the time neither of them was deemed fit to take the title. The only Buffy depatures that really phased me were Robia LaMorte, SethGreen, and Kristine Sutherland. More recently, in season four, > > > Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a mother figure> > for Riley, introducing him to> > > another girl to lure him away from Buffy. WB / Hulu. Career Crouse made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. [13] In 2021, she appeared in a limited engagement of Mornings at Seven at Broadway's Theatre at St. Lindsay Crouse had more fun playing a zombie than playing Prof. Walsh. [4] Their 1946 play State of the Union won that year's Pulitzer Prize for Drama. But Crouse made the character far too cold for fans to get into. Among her films was a starring role in House of Games, the 1987 film directed and written by her then-husband David Mamet, in which she plays Margaret Ford, a psychiatrist who is intrigued by the art of the con. During the ensuing battle, Lindsey attempted to burn a scroll that Angel needed to save Cordelia. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a> taser by a then unknown assailant? I read something about this in the official Buffy Magazine years ago, don't remember what it said other than Maggie was going to play a much bigger part in Season 4 originally. [1][2], I guess it's fair to say you've never seen anything like real poverty. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. Darla, however, secretly used his feelings to gain information from Wolfram & Hart to obtain a mystical ring from the Senior Partners during the Review. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. However, his hew hand began to act up, writing "kill" whenever Lindsey didn't concentrate. You are using an out of date browser. Lindsay Ann Crouse is an American actress. > in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at> dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:> > > In article <21ced21e.0206@posting.google.com>, Sam> > wrote:> >. When he tried to kill the aspiring actress Cordelia Chase, Angel attacked Russell at his manor to save her. Adam is a complete monster with absolutely no human emotions -- it made him a very formidable foe! DonnaMy opinions might have changed, but not the fact that I am right. One of the biggest last minute changes that affected Buffy was Seth Green leaving early in production of season four. There are just as many other werewolf stories out there that portray them as being normal humans when not in wolf form who can be killed just like any other person can be. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >> > Both Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse bailing in the same season meant they> > had to scramble. Her other films include Slap Shot (1977), Between the Lines (1977), The Verdict (1982), Prefontaine (1997), and The Insider (1999). To me she was always a secondarycharacter, I liked the character and the actress, but the death just didn'ttouch me. The WB/YouTube. Certainly Tara's role would have been quite different,or maybe there wouldn't have been a Tara at all. Angel then hurled Winters out of the window of the tall building they were in, into the sunlight where he was burnt to dust. READ MORE:Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Her full nameLindsay Ann Crouseis an intentional tribute to the Broadway writing . "A Master in the Art of the Con. Crouse was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her role in the 1984 movie Places in the Heart. ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. [8] Darla did this with the intent to keep both lawyers as their liaison to the Senior Partners, because though angry for being used by Wolfram & Hart, she desired power. They were clearly playing with the Frankenstein myth, where the monster takes a life of its own, ponders the meaning of its existence and wants to create other monsters to keep it company. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: How many seasons of Buffy are there? However, he did return for an episode in the sixth season, where he returned and revealed he had married someone else. Apparently Adam was originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay. Marc Blucas is an American actor who is best known for his role in the supernatural teen drama, Buffy The Vampire Slayer. and our I was really creeped out when he reanimated the corpses of Walsh and the other doctor. [4], After learning that Faith was convinced by Angel to end the deal and stay at his apartment for rehabilitation, Lindsey then hired an assassin to kill Faith, not wanting word to get out of what happened. Mamet got the job. Meanwhile, he infiltrated Wolfram & Hart. I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? [citationneeded], Failing to do so, Darla was diagnosed with syphilis, the disease that she had before becoming a vampire. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:56:21 -0400, Timothy A. McDaniel wrote: Thoght ASH was supposed to be in the spin-off "Ripper". the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. I'm sure she admires Dr. Frankenstein - or Einstein. A stunned Lindsey slumps against by a wall, outraged that he was killed by one of Angel's "flunkies" instead of the vampire himself. --from a usenet discussion. A person I would really like to know!". This is the first time I've ever heard this. I see that you're either the one with the power or you're powerless.Lindsey McDonald, Lindsey McDonald was a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart and both an enemy and ally of Angel Investigations. Or that > > lets face it. Lindsey was one of six children, two of whom died of the flu. I mean, it's the year 2000 people, we almost thought the world was going to end because computers couldn't cope with the millennium bug and the Big Bad is a mutant hybrid demon with a built-in dial-up modem. Buffy defeats the demons and appears on the monitors after Walsh has prematurely announced Buffy's death to Riley, who walks out. Actual legends appear to be enormously miscellaneous and seldom include these familiar pieces, while they often *do* include pieces that we (and Hollywood) would say just belong to ghosts, werewolves, zombies, and the like. riiighhht?). The Initiative is her baby. He sent Spike to kill her, claiming she was still possessed by Jasmine; he later admited he did not expect the plan to succeed, but it "was worth a shot." --Doctor Who ************************************************************************, I wonder. It wasMaggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy infront of everyone at the Initiative. Andaside from that, I dunno. In an interview from back in 2018, he said: "It was one of my very first jobs, it was certainly my first big job. Putting him in a crisis of conscience, Lindsay teamed up with Angel to save the children and allow him to leave Wolfram & Hart scot-free. At Harvard, 46.3% of recruited athletes in the class of 2022 come from families with household incomes of $250,000+, compared with 1/3 of the class as a whole. Buffy Main Cast. Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can onlybe killed by a silver bullet. Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. [citation needed] She received her acting training at HB Studio[7] in New York City. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ", Clements, Warren. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. [14], Lindsey later sought out Spike under the assumed identity of a drifter named Doyle, closely paralleling the initial encounters between Angel and the real Doyle. Express. Although his deception is exposed and the Cup revealed to be a fake, Lindsey's plans were nevertheless served as Angel begins to doubt himself after losing to Spike. [9], They learned that Angel had nothing and the footage consisted of nothing but Cordelia and Wesley messing around; it not only embarrassed them when they acted suspiciously to stop the footage being shown, but it allowed the demon to take the money and return it to Anne. The loss of Marc Blucas was a blessing! I'm talking dirt poor, no shoes, no toilet, six of us kids in a room and come flu season that went down to four. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Adam wasn't scary enough to be Big Bad on his own either, LOL. One their schemes involved organizing a charity event with Anne Steele, operator of the East Hills Teen Center, to improved Wolfram & Hart's image and secretly steal the donations. This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. This is USENET! Adam was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Upon leaving, he warned them not to follow him due to his "evil hand issues," pinching Lilah on the bottom as he walked out the door. [FAN DISCUSSION]Buffy: Why does Sarah Michelle Gellar not want to return for reboot? Unknown to many in the Initiative, Walsh is also involved in Project 314, a secret program within the Initiative that is creating a hybrid demon-humanoid-mechanoid (demonoid) known as Adam. YesI was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appearin Buffy, 1. if you stabbed a vampire with a stake in the heart you would have toleave it there as removing it would resurrect the vampire2. Although if you bring up Jenny Calendar I'm still bitter aboutthem killing her off! Cameras installed in Riley's room allow her to spy on Buffy and Riley while they have sex, and later to hear Buffy ask Riley about the 314 Project. Adamwas a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Vampires could shapeshift into bats, wolfs and even smoke4. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a> > taser by a then unknown assailant? Her interest was given a menacing quality in "Gingerbread" when we first see Willow and Amy performing a magic ritual. Wasn't Lindsay Course playing judges in the Law & Order franchise was that part of the reason why she got killed off in Buffy? [1], While studying at University of California, Hastings College of the Law, Lindsey was recruited by Holland Manners to the law firm Wolfram & Hart. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. She did my head in so im glad that she didnt keep going. In any case, Tara was always shown to understand the importance of moderating the use of magic. There were other indications that an> unknown force was at work in and around U.C. Apparently Adam wasoriginally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted outof her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. Lindsey insisted to Lorne that he had changed, offering to sing for him so Lorne might read his future. Lindsay Crouse - a Best Supporting Actress Oscar nominee in 1985 for Places in the Heart - is a compelling presence as Dr Joan Allenby, a wronged woman who lives out a revenge fantasy after witnessing her lover cheating on her with a young colleague. "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. Ooh, didn't know that. Sunnydale in further> episodes before it was all revealed to us. Attempting to finish off Project 314, begun by Walsh, Adam has his workers manufacturing more creatures like himself; part demon, human, and machine combined. And why would he make his own bullets, then? The two had met during the production on Slap Shot. Older ones could control rodents7. This also explains why they didn't think to ring in some othermilitary type as the big bad. (The> writers could change their minds, of course, and make them crucial to> the season seven finale, say, but that's the current canon.) From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. It has something to offer everyone at all levels Buddhism is dynamic and has captured the interests of Americans. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the first episode. You don't think she's just pining for the fjords? Perceiving that Buffy poses a risk to the project, Walsh tries to kill Buffy by sending her on a mission on which she is ambushed by two demons released from the Initiative's holding cells. That she doesn't want to live in a world of babies. When Darla failed to persuade Angel to their side, thus stunting her mentality, Lindsey discovered he was in love with her despite her desire to become a vampire. Riley was different from Buffy's other love interests, is he was the only one who could offer her a slice of normality. Perhaps with the intention of using them as police or even soldiers. > > > Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?> > >> > > Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. She> said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of> their hats at the last minute. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. And he is pretty darn cute to boot!! Crouse has also guest-starred on Alias, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Columbo, Criminal Minds, Law & Order, ER, Millennium, and NYPD Blue. Lindsey and Eve. I've seen other published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Sumati Marut, Cindy Lee, Rick Blue, Lindsay Crouse", "Actress brings Buddhist retreat to Windhover. Lindsey also worked with the ex-Watcher Rutherford Sirk to fake an addendum to the Shanshu Prophecy that the vampire with a soul must drink from the Cup of Perpetual Torment after apparently causing a disruption of reality that Eve claims is the result of there being two vampire champions with souls in an attempt to provoke a conflict between Angel and Spike that would result in Angel's death. Holland, surprised by Lindsey's willingness to stand up as his person, welcomed Lindsey back, giving him a raise and his own office. I liked Adam as a Big Bad though, because as well as being scary to look at it and wicked strong, it wasn't like he was actually Evil; he was just the creation of someone else's mind. Shesaid the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out oftheir hats at the last minute. Angel tried to catch her out by attacking her, thus forcing her to defend herself beyond the abilities of an average person in front of a court hearing with Lindsey as her defendant. In the search, it was discovered that Lee had consulted with an enemy law firm, and was then executed right next to Lindsey, his blood spraying on his face. In season five, Riley started to deteriorate as his devotion to the initiative started to get in the way of his relationship with the vampire slayer. She really would like to fashion the world in her image. That was what irked me at first about Tara. *shudder*. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. Adam activates the chip Walsh had inserted into Riley's heart, making him biddable to Adam's command. Re-writes and character alterations happen all the time in T.V., but her direction shifts so radically so fast that it's always struck me as odd. She has a vision of what she wants to do. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. Leaving Angel briefly to get his stake, Angel in that time recovered and turned the tables on Lindsey. And ya know what, if Michelle Trachtenbergleft in the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. Professor Maggie Walsh is a fictional character in the television series Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She was just in the way of his goal and so she had to be eliminated- and I think that cold, emotionless demon is always more unnerving than any other. A graduate of Harvard University, where she competed in both cross country and track and field, Lindsay is a senior staff editor and senior OpDocs producer at The New York Times. In 1982 she appeared as the decisive witness in The Verdict. Werewolves> and silver bullets could be another false thing. Unable to get within a good distance due to a cross Lindsey held, Angel threw a scythe at Lindsey, chopping off his right hand. ", Lindsey was originally going to appear in the "First Night" storyline of. After graduating from the Chapin School in 1966[6] "To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everythingup to and including this sig!" I've been expecting Tara to leave orbe off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLYgoneright? The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditionalstandards. >> If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, jlp@aol.comnospam wrote in, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790, > > in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a, >> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what, Did anyone else notice that Cain was the same guy as Sahrjon on Angel. But Crouse said this to Rafelson, who called Mamet; when the director asked why he should hire him for the screenplay, Mamet replied, "Because I'll give you a good screenplay or a sincere apology." (Presumably Watchers and other supernatural experts knew more). [10], Lindsey quickly replaced his hand with a new prosthetic and continued with his life, requiring pre-made ties for work and unable to play his guitar. > And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone> Ranger complex. Zombie Walsh attacks Buffy when she comes to Riley's rescue, but Buffy knocks her down and defeats her, and with some help from the Scooby-Gang of Willow, Xander, and Giles, she defeats Adam as well. "It was an amazing first job as they were such a nice group of people, they were extremely patient with me. Riley was also the only character to have been accepted as part of the group by Buffy's male friend, Xander Harris (Nicholas Brendon). Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. Usually, Xander would become jealous of Buffy's other male connections, but he seemed to show respect towards Riley. After a relationship with Robert Duvall,[15] Crouse married playwright David Mamet in 1977. I just can't see Oz taking Tara's place. Zombie Walsh attacks Buffy when she comes to Riley's rescue, but Buffy knocks her down and defeats her, and with some help from the Scooby-Gang of Willow, Xander, and Giles, she defeats Adam as well. [17] She and Mamet divorced in 1990. While it is true that the affinity began as a result of a common interest in magic, Willow was always portrayed as the more dominant partner. > Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, Car@rcn.com wrote in article> <3D075A59@rcn.com> > > From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti> > Noxon:> > >. At least one traditional legend we have (as of now) been told isfalse: several people in episodes have said that leprechauns do notexist. Before Angel left, Lindsey had the encounter digitally recorded and alerted the police. I know in a lot of the *old* werewolf stories, youdidn't need silver to kill one, but after all these bleedin' movies got theissue confused, if *I* were hunting one, I don't think I'd gamble on whetherthey were wrong! ", Fans continue to admire the actor and his role, with one commenting: "Marc seems to be one of the most intelligent and down to earth actors with an ego in its proper place. Better safe than splattered.> > At least one traditional legend we have (as of now) been told is false:> several people in episodes have said that leprechauns do not exist. Kinda makes sense that she died, "Well, she's {Buffy} got an appointment with someone {Walsh} who's actually. [2] "Carmikl" wrote in message. ", Lindsay Crouse brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport, Lindsay Crouse Summer Retreat in Massachusetts web site, Lindsay Crouse's Buddhist Teachings posted online at ACI-LA, Lindsay Crouse's additional Buddhist teachings posted online, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lindsay_Crouse&oldid=1133361838, Episode: "Rebecca McManus and Steve Arnold", Episode: "I've Got Batman in My Basement", Episodes: "Captain Kangaroo Court", "A Liver Runs Through It", Episodes: "Ted and Carey's Bogus Adventure", "Alice Doesn't Fit Here Anymore", Episodes: "Forgive, But Don't Forget", "Black Eye", "Sinners and Saints", "All Others Pay Cash", This page was last edited on 13 January 2023, at 11:35. Or it could be that the Watcher's Guide is a fluff piece and that's really how it happened. Both of . "Look at my generation. ", "North Shore Film Festival wraps up on May 8 and 9. But it's easier to see how and why they might have madethat decision. Apparently Adam was> > originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted out> > of her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. Afterward, he mails it to Angel at Wolfram & Hart. Marc Blucas: The actor played Riley Finn in Buffy, Marc Blucas: The actor played Buffy's boyfriend. We had a lot more planned for Seth Green> > (Oz), for example, but his departure> > > [to do films] opened the door for Tara (Amber Benson), which was> > something we never expected. What was her plan? Fans struggled to connect with Riley when he was first introduced to the show, as he was seen as just another of Buffy's romances. Though Angel saw Lindsey off, he managed to get one last crack at him by taping a sign reading "Cops Suck" on the back of his truck. See Lindsay Crouse full list of movies and tv shows from their career. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a LoneRanger complex. What did Maggie intend for Adam to do then? You must log in or register to reply here. He did this by casually informing the board in a meeting that he was bored with the firm's games while assaulting his colleagues and throwing the promotion to Lilah after revealing she carried files against them out of fear that she would not be promoted and thus killed. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. His relationship with Buffy also hit the rocks after he realised she could not love him in the way he wanted, as she was scared of emotional vulnerability. I doubt Oz would die from a bullet IMHO, unless he was shot in the head orsomething > > > That might have been the net result, but you would have to admit the> road travel to get to that point would have been much different. When she seemingly killed a security guard which put her on the run, Lindsay tried to contact Angel but he was already there and hung Lindsey's neck by a string choking, wanting to know where she was but Lindsey explained that she would die if Angel didn't save her. She's like a President. Buffy reboot cast: Which Buffy the Vampire Slayer cast will return? Find where to watch Lindsay Crouse's latest movies and tv shows . They were only able to leave by the sacrifice of Gunn, who remained behind to take Lindsey's place. [citationneeded], Angel is given the amulet which Spike eventually uses to destroy the Hellmouth in Sunnydale. I don't know but I don't think Maggie Walsh would have been scary enough as the Big Bad on her own. However Buffy seemed to prefer living in danger, and she could not get used to the idea of settling down with Riley while attempting to save the world. [citationneeded]. If you've been paying any attention to running news (or just big headlines in general) then you are already familiar with Lindsay's work. He had also been betrayed by his boss, Professor Walsh (Lindsay Crouse) who had been in charge of the initiative but had been lying about an attempt to kill his girlfriend, Buffy. But just as he said this, Angel entered the conference they were having where Lindsay introduce him to Wolfram & Hart and telling him that Angel could not touch Winters. And also, Seth (being oncontract) wouldn't have been missing for the amount of eps Tara was thisseason to make the whole just got back together thing and then killed in thesame episode. Cookie Notice If you believe that then how do you reconcile Mr Whedon's comments that he does not plan a series more than one season in advance? (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still hasscratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, sohe can't heal too fast. He has also previously starred in Necessary Roughness and Underground, and fans may be interested to hear he used to be a college basketball player. Apparently Adam was> > originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted out> > of her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. The show then went into a bunch of filler/side stories involving Buffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? Wesley, unhappy with being forced to serve the Partners, shot those possibilities down, saying the presence of either alongside Angel would not help the Senior Partners get what they wanted, as the vampire would at worst ignore them and kill them at best. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. She said that she was rathersurprised and disappointed uponhearing abou ther character's death. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> first episode. Maybe my brain is just not functioning today, but who is this Ash person? This is something that has always been interesting to me everytime I watch season 4. Crouse was born in New York City, the daughter of Anna (ne Erskine)[1] and Russel Crouse, a playwright. Realising he could never truly be with her, he rejoined the military and took off on a helicopter, leaving Buffy standing helplessly below. was not that big if a surprise. [20] Crouse has spoken on the relevance of Buddhism in the modern world: .mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 40px}.mw-parser-output .templatequote .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;padding-left:1.6em;margin-top:0}, "[Buddhism] is not an exclusive club. Sleeper--'It's a library; only the stupid and the evil are afraid of those.' At some point, he began a relationship with Eve, the Liaison to the Senior Partners. He was known for being a jock-like character, who was a part of a secret initiative to capture demons and study them. [2], Lindsey's driving force was his ambition, largely in part due to his childhood poverty. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad.
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