And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, a. Blue Letter Bible study tools make reading, searching and studying the Bible easy and rewarding. They have never caught sight of this unity; they are still thinking in terms of their individuality, and so you have two people asserting their rights, and therefore you get clashes and discord and separation. Bible Study Questions on Ephesians and Philippians Introduction: This workbook was designed for Bible class study, family study, or personal study. I know that the most of commentators say it is. Storge was the second word for love. It deals with the Christian life and expresses what Christians should and should not do. The same logic continues on into Ephesians 6. We are studying Ephesians 5:21-33 for Sunday, August 25. That is what we should do to the Lord. Luke-Acts
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2 But for you who respect my name, the sun of vindication 4 will rise with healing wings, 5 and you will skip about 6 like calves released from the stall. Matthew 18:15-17 – “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. We are to oppose them, rebuke them, and fight against them wherever we find them, whether it is in our lives or the lives of others in the church. How are we to live our lives according to Ephesians Chapter 5, verses 2, 8 and 15? --------------------
Yet still, it doesn’t go as far as to say, “You submit completely to God, so you must submit to your husband the same way.” Simply put, in no place does the Scripture say that a person should submit to another in that way. Visit our library of inductive Bible studies for more in depth inductive studies on this and other books of the Bible you can use in your small group. If Paul meant that there was no “rank” or “order of authority” among believers, then this command in Hebrews 13:17 is meaningless. Power, in their Christian life, is always to be exercised in love. Love could be cleaning out the toilet, taking out the trash, sweeping the floor, washing the dishes, filing the report at work that no one else wants to, going to the store, making the bed, listening, speaking a kind word, comforting the discouraged, making a phone call to our parents, asking about someone’s life, visiting an orphanage, visiting the sick in the hospital or spending quality time with our family. It means you recognize that there is an order of authority, and that you are part of a unit, a team. 1 Peter 1:15-16 – But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”. We need to study the Bible to know what pleases Him and what doesn’t. Peter sets this across when he praises Sarah, the wife of Abraham, as an example of a godly wife, when she called Abraham “Lord.” That doesn’t mean “Lord” in the sense of God, but “Lord” in the sense of “master.” That is a lot of respect. (3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands, as also Christ is head of the church... as the church is subject to Christ, As Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it, That He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, That He might present her to Himself a glorious church, So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies, For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh, This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church, Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband, Let the wife see that she respects her husband, Let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband, David Guzik :: Génesis 14 – Abram Rescata a Lot y Conoce a Melquisedec, G1 - alpha - Strong's Greek Lexicon (KJV), David Guzik :: Hechos 9 – La Conversión de Saulo de Tarso, David Guzik :: 1 Corintios 7 – Principios Sobre el Matrimonio y la Soltería, A Summary of Each Bible Book - Study Resources, Chuck Smith :: Sermon Notes for Matthew 7:6, David Guzik :: Génesis 3 – La tentación y caída del hombre, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jesus and the Holy Trinity (Walter Martin), Genesis 6-7 (1979-82 Audio) (Chuck Smith), A Quiet Heart Means Confidence in God (Elisabeth Elliot), Genesis 1:1-8 (1979-82 Audio) (Chuck Smith), Genesis 4-5 (1979-82 Audio) (Chuck Smith). You have generals and colonels and majors and captains and sergeants and privates. b. Back to above. i. Over 50,000 words of in depth discovery questions, teaching points, and applications cover each chapter in 23 lessons. a. i. iii. Our website uses cookies to store user preferences. 4. Matthew 12:34-37 – You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? This aspect of submission has a particular application to wives in a Christian marriage. He must never think of himself in isolation or detachment. So the reign of the husband is to be a reign and a rule of love; it is a leadership of love.” (Lloyd-Jones). It is in this way that husbands are to be their wife’s savior. The true believer will repent and hunger for what’s right. So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies: The single word as is important. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh: Paul quoted this essential passage from Genesis 2:24. W hat are 4 key Bible Study Questions from the Book of Ephesians? Remember that this exhortation to awake comes to Christians. The most careful examination will not be able to detect the slightest speck of unworthiness or of sin.” (Lloyd-Jones). a. “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Thankfully, he continues and shows what obligations the Christian husband has in marriage. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. They do matter. It is mentioned over and over again because it is so important. But if it happens he is certain to inflict grievous damage on his wife; and it is damage in which he himself will be involved because she is a part of him.” (Lloyd-Jones). This is an experience valid and important for every believer. This week we’ll be studying Ephesians 5:1-20. Review of Part 1 of Ephesians. (Eph 5:28-29) The application of the principles to the duty of a Christian husband. Though wives are to submit to their husbands, it never excuses husbands acting as tyrants over their wives. CONTEXTUAL INSIGHTS TO EPHESIANS 5:1-6:9. It is clearly this. Christ’s obedience and love pleased God and if we love others by sacrificing ourselves for them, this also pleases God, which is what verse 10 tells us we are to do. If we have heroes, they should be Christian heroes who modeled Christ in their own lives. Prisoner : Paul is writing this from prison. The topic is submission and Paul focused on a particularly important realm of submission – the Christian marriage, from the wife unto the husband. “Woman was made at the beginning as the result of an operation which God performed upon man. First, they should love their wife this way because this is what love is. b. Minor Prophets
Read Ephesians 5:5-7. f. Let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband: If Paul’s message in this great passage could be boiled down to two principles which must govern our thinking and our actions as married people, those two are: i. a. Let it not even be named among you: Paul groups together these ideas of sexual sin and impropriety, indicating that none of these are fitting for saints and should not even be named among God’s people. Paul’s Ministry in Ephesus. 3 But among you, as is proper among the saints, there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. Background Information. It is a fear of disappointing Jesus, a fear of grieving Him. Again, the theme is repeated: you are children of light, so live like children of light. b. What it really means is ‘deference’, ‘with reverential obedience’.” (Lloyd-Jones), ii. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross (Philippians 2:5-8). Paul, the man who hammers the point of righteousness by faith more than any other Bible writer, tells us that if … Grace means something in our lives. The light will finally make everything visible. Such a photo and story, even if untrue, could do great damage to his ministry. Those who are filled with the Spirit will naturally praise, and praise is a way that we are filled with the Spirit. Man was created first. Below are some preliminary questions to assist in the study of this passage. Have you ever heard of this concept before? (Eph 5:3-4) A contrast to walking in love: conduct not fitting for the Christian. Pauline Epistles
Is it a bad testimony? 4. The Old Testament
She may choose to be – that is for her to decide. You are here: Home. The answer to all that, says Paul, is to understand this great principle of unity.” (Lloyd-Jones), ii. John 8:12 – When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. ii. 6:3; Gal. Do the following verses... 2. Who are the two audiences in verse 19 and how are they different, the same? If a husband and wife are together considering Him, you need have no worry about their relationship to each other.” (Lloyd-Jones), ©2013 David Guzik – No distribution beyond personal use without permission TVGuide.com. c. As dear children: Children are natural imitators. vii. John 12:46 – I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness. ii. GenesisExodusLeviticusNumbersDeuteronomyJoshuaJudgesRuth1 Samuel2 Samuel1 Kings2 Kings1 Chronicles2 ChroniclesEzraNehemiahEstherJobPsalmsProverbsEcclesiastesSong of SongsIsaiahJeremiahLamentationsEzekielDanielHoseaJoelAmosObadiahJonahMicahNahumHabakkukZephaniahHaggaiZechariahMalachiMatthewMarkLukeJohnActsRomans1 Corinthians2 CorinthiansGalatiansEphesiansPhilippiansColossians1 Thessalonians2 Thessalonians1 Timothy2 TimothyTitusPhilemonHebrewsJames1 Peter2 Peter1 John2 John3 JohnJudeRevelation, The Whole Bible
Does he really mean everything? “It is possible that some husbands might say, ‘How can I love such a wife as I have?’ It might be a supposable case that some Christian was unequally yoked together with an unbeliever, and found himself for ever bound with a fetter to one possessed of a morose disposition, of a froward temper, of a bitter spirit. It has been called many things….God’s showcase, God’s trophy display but I like “Trophies of Grace” because that is what seems to best fit what some of the Bible verses in Ephesians seem to be saying. Ephesians, Bible Courses, Bible study guides, Bible study questions,Books of Bible, English. God did the joining. It is as much a matter of the mind as the heart, because it chooses to love the undeserving. This was Paul’s way of saying, “I know I got off the topic a little bit. These are questions on the biblical text of Ephesians. We can see how someone might take that impression. Talk that is nonsensical and has no value. B. The majority of your conversations should not be jokes or surface talk. Luke-Acts
If you are asleep, you probably do not know it. vi. So there is a priority by creation for man. ii. Jesus’ sacrifice was pleasing to God. What should you do to expose and fight against this practice? They will be made manifest by the light of God’s searching judgment. The New Testament
b. Day One. When a man joins the military, the first thing he does is strip away his individuality. … Submitting: The word submitting here literally means, “to be under in rank.” It is a military word. We have a model for the marriage relationship: the relationship between Jesus and the church. But the Christian wife still has her obligations. Use our words positively instead of negatively. Let our words be glorifying to God, focused on the gifts and grace He has given to us. iii. This shows that the loveless marriage doesn’t please God and does not fulfill His purpose. iii. 3. What kind of speech should we replace this wicked speech with? A verse by verse study of Ephesians 5:1-21, about the manner in which God’s holy people should conduct themselves in daily life. Ephesians Chapter 5 may be subdivided into seven subsections: 5:1-2 which describes what is to follow based on what Paul has just shared in the prior chapter, 5:3-5 where he provides a summary of some concerns, 5:6-14 includes a warning as to negative consequences, 5:15-17 promotes wisdom, 5:18-21 how we are to interact one to another, 5:22-31 Paul uses marriage as an illustration, 5… These terms may be justly considered as including every kind of sacrifice, offering, and oblation made to God on any account.”. ii. Just as Christ also loved the church: We might say that Paul taught two things at once here. ii. Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. Do you stay there and listen to it? 1 John 3:7-8 – Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. God has not commanded in His word that men have exclusive authority in the areas of politics, business, education, and so on. It has been called many things….God’s showcase, God’s trophy display but I like “Trophies of Grace” because that is what seems to best fit what some of the Bible verses in Ephesians seem to be saying. 4. GenesisExodusLeviticusNumbersDeuteronomyJoshuaJudgesRuth1 Samuel2 Samuel1 Kings2 Kings1 Chronicles2 ChroniclesEzraNehemiahEstherJobPsalmsProverbsEcclesiastesSong of SongsIsaiahJeremiahLamentationsEzekielDanielHoseaJoelAmosObadiahJonahMicahNahumHabakkukZephaniahHaggaiZechariahMalachiMatthewMarkLukeJohnActsRomans1 Corinthians2 CorinthiansGalatiansEphesiansPhilippiansColossians1 Thessalonians2 Thessalonians1 Timothy2 TimothyTitusPhilemonHebrewsJames1 Peter2 Peter1 John2 John3 JohnJudeRevelation, Select an Ending Point
“The Holy Ghost seems to exhaust language to describe this purity. ii. Epistle to the Ephesians STUDY 5 Ephesians 3. i. Paul’s idea in this passage can be applied out of context in a condemning way. After listening to and/or reading the scripture please answer the related review questions below. ... What command does the apostle Paul give to Christians in Ephesians 5:18 (printed below?) The idea is “you submit to God in absolutely everything without question, so you must submit to your husband in the same absolute way.” This interpretation believes that the words “as to the Lord“defines the extent of submission. Questions & Answers by R.C. Introduction to Ephesians; v. “Agape has to do with the mind: it is not simply an emotion which rises unbidden in our hearts; it is a principle by which we deliberately live.” (Barclay) Agape really doesn’t have much to do with feelings – it has to do with decisions. I have heard of an atheist who said he could get over every argument except the example of his godly mother: he could never answer that.” (Spurgeon). Think of somebody who has had a ‘stroke’... the arm is not healthy, it resists movement.” (Lloyd-Jones), i. iii. Verse 1 of Ephesians Chapter 5 tells us to be imitators of God. So husbands ought to love their own wives... just as the Lord does the church. Let it be testimonies of His grace in our lives. I guess you probably don’t have issue with this when you are are around believers, but what about when you are around your worldly friends? Paul wants us to know that it also speaks about the relationship between Christ and the church. Using the love of an ideal husband as a pattern, we could say that Jesus has a constant love for His people, an enduring love for His people, and a hearty love for His people. He takes the decisions, he gives the rulings. Below are some preliminary questions to assist in the study of this passage. Historical Books
That is the relationship – as Christ nourishes and cherishes the church, so the husband nourishes and cherishes the wife – and the wife should realize that that is her position in this relationship.” (Lloyd-Jones), e. Of the body: The picture of the body shows how essential a Christian wife’s submission is. But God often calls us to lay down our life little by little – in small coins (as it were) instead of one large payment – but it is laying down our lives nonetheless. How should a husband love his wife? But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. Pauline Epistles
(Paul says that it is "outcome determinative." Adam Clarke on a sacrifice: “A sin-offering, a victim for sin; the same as zebach, which almost universally means that sacrificial act in which the blood of an animal was poured out as an atonement for sin. Ephesians 5:19-20 – Speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. i. A verification email has been sent to the address you provided. i. Ephesians 4:14 B) Responsibility 1. Daily Study Questions for Ephesians Chapter 5. Sometimes it is difficult to see how the husband is the Savior of the body in the way that Jesus is the Savior of the body, that is, of the Church. Walk as wise men (15-18) What is the “therefore” there for? 1 Timothy 4:10 speaks of Jesus being the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. Awake, you who sleep, arise from the dead: Our participation in the light is shown by our resurrection with Jesus (He made us alive together with Christ, Ephesians 2:5). This applies in a place of clearly Biblical sin – such as signing a fraudulent tax return. Paul also said to follow him as he followed the Lord. One might say, “Well, I’ve thought about committing fornication, so that means that I have fornicated in my heart and that means that I am as guilty as someone who has actually committed the act of fornication. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything. The water which washes away sin, which cleanses and purifies the soul, is the Word.” (Charles Spurgeon, a confirmed Baptist). i. Don’t set people up on a pedestal, but we can learn from them so that we can better imitate the Lord ourselves in our lives. If we respect Jesus, we then should submit to one another because we love Jesus. Ephesians interactive Bible quiz. Silly talk. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. i. The woman was taken out of the side of Adam; and it is from the Lord’s bleeding, wounded side that the church comes.” (Lloyd-Jones). Empty talk accomplishes nothing of eternal value. B. “I ask you to notice what is not always the case with regard to the husband and the wife, that the Lord Jesus loves his church unselfishly; that is to say, he never loved her for what she has, but what she is; nay, I must go further than that, and say that he loved her, not so much for what she is, but what he makes her as the object of his love. They are unfruitful, meaning they are not pleasing to God. 1. ii. We should model our lives after Christ, who lived a perfect life in this world and showed us how to respond to all kinds of problems and temptations. Nevertheless: Paul really taught on two things at once. [ a] ( L) 6 Let no one deceive you. General Epistles
This is wrong. This is a reason for avoiding and exposing the unfruitful works of darkness as described in Ephesians 5:8-12. There are limits to the submission the government can expect of you. He wants us to understand the principle behind the command. It was to man that this authority was given over the brute animal creation; it was man who was called upon to give them names. 4:17-32. So he made sure to never be caught in any compromising situation. “Anyone who has served in the armed forces knows that ‘rank’ has to do with order and authority, not with value or ability.” (Wiersbe), iii. This means that drunkenness is a waste of resources that should be submitted to Jesus. This is true in regard to the pattern of the first man and the first woman. i. --------------------
Bible Study HOME ... Chapter 5. In addressing the Christian husbands, Paul also gave three reasons to love their wife: i. Why are these kinds of talk not fitting? Lift up your heads, O gates, and be lifted up, O ancient doors, That the King of Glory may come in! v. “Let no man be so tenacious of his own will or his opinion in matters indifferent, as to disturb the peace of the Church; in all such matters give way to each other, and let love rule.” (Clarke). According to 2 Timothy 1:7, God has given us the spirit of power – but also of love. The wife is the one who is kept, preserved, guarded, shielded, provided for by the husband. Major Prophets
Workbook on Ephesians and Philippians Page #4 Bible Study Questions on Ephesians and Philippians Introduction: This workbook was designed for Bible class study, family study, or personal study. When Paul wrote the washing of water by the word, he used the ancient Greek word rhema. It might be described as the highest love of which man, without God’s help, is capable of. i. 7. We should respect them for their character, not for their looks or success. But we must let our principle govern us. As well, submission does not mean silence. God, make speed to save me. It doesn’t matter if they deserve it. 2. What instruction does the apostle give us in Ephesians 6:14a (printed below?) This word is especially needful for husbands who see headship in submission with worldly understanding instead of godly understanding. Meaningful talk. God knows this, so He also includes reasons for His command. We know this is what Paul does not mean because that would be a clear contradiction of other things that he wrote. It is also true in regard to the pattern of marriage in general. No one has any more obligation to submit than anyone else.”, i. When we act according to our nature as children of God, we will imitate Him. (see Eph 4:4) 6. Also, select the version and then click the "Search the Bible" button. 1. Billy Graham knew this principle. Change site language. We have therefore created a library of almost one thousand (and growing) inductive Bible studies, which are available for free. It was a fragrant aroma, like some of the sacrifices in the Old Testament. “No one is really in charge. So we think you should submit to us here.”. The moment he does so he has broken the most fundamental principle of marriage. Challenges of the First Christmas – Pressing on in Obedience, Study Ephesians: Practical Lessons on Living Out Your Faith. Do not be partakers with them. ( K) in the kingdom of Christ and of God. We want to help you study the Bible, obey the Bible, and teach the Bible to others. Verse 14 is probably part of a hymn, which was a hymn of invitation to unbelievers to repent to experience the light of Christ. In the sense that He preserves all men and blesses all men with good things from heaven above. Then Paul seemed to remember that his original topic was marriage, so that is why he used the word nevertheless in Ephesians 5:33. i. The emphasis is more on variety than on strict categories. Read Ephesians 5 commentary using Matthew Henry Commentary on the Whole Bible (Complete). “Notice that the Apostles lay great stress upon it. “It is true that rhema is not quite the same as logos, but carries with it the definite sense of the spoken word... it may have the sense of that truth as proclaimed, the preached Word or Gospel.” (Salmond) There is something cleansing about being under the teaching of the Word. i. Discovery questions to encourage interaction or meditation. See then that you walk circumspectly: Because this light was given to us, we should walk circumspectly – carefully, wisely, not as fools. GenesisExodusLeviticusNumbersDeuteronomyJoshuaJudgesRuth1 Samuel2 Samuel1 Kings2 Kings1 Chronicles2 ChroniclesEzraNehemiahEstherJobPsalmsProverbsEcclesiastesSong of SongsIsaiahJeremiahLamentationsEzekielDanielHoseaJoelAmosObadiahJonahMicahNahumHabakkukZephaniahHaggaiZechariahMalachiMatthewMarkLukeJohnActsRomans1 Corinthians2 CorinthiansGalatiansEphesiansPhilippiansColossians1 Thessalonians2 Thessalonians1 Timothy2 TimothyTitusPhilemonHebrewsJames1 Peter2 Peter1 John2 John3 JohnJudeRevelation, Select an Ending Point
c. And gave Himself for her: Jesus’ action towards the church is a pattern. (Eph 5:18) Walking in the light means constant filling with the Holy Spirit. 4 1 “For indeed the day 2 is coming, burning like a furnace, and all the arrogant evildoers will be chaff. GenesisExodusLeviticusNumbersDeuteronomyJoshuaJudgesRuth1 Samuel2 Samuel1 Kings2 Kings1 Chronicles2 ChroniclesEzraNehemiahEstherJobPsalmsProverbsEcclesiastesSong of SongsIsaiahJeremiahLamentationsEzekielDanielHoseaJoelAmosObadiahJonahMicahNahumHabakkukZephaniahHaggaiZechariahMalachiMatthewMarkLukeJohnActsRomans1 Corinthians2 CorinthiansGalatiansEphesiansPhilippiansColossians1 Thessalonians2 Thessalonians1 Timothy2 TimothyTitusPhilemonHebrewsJames1 Peter2 Peter1 John2 John3 JohnJudeRevelation, Select a Beginning Point
Just as Christ also loved the church: Jesus’ attitude towards the church is a pattern for the Christian husband’s love to his wife. People either have incredibly low standards or they ignore the moral character and focus on outward looks or success. Adam Clarke on an offering: “An oblation, an eucharistic offering; the same as minchah, Leviticus 2:1 and following, which is explained to be an offering made unto the Lord, of fine flour, with oil and frankincense. And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma. But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light: Even the things done in secret will be exposed. We are not saved by the example of Jesus, but once saved His example is meaningful to us. This applies in matters of true Christian conscience these terms may be justly considered as including kind... 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