Luigi, -27 28. Zero Suit Samus, +27 10. Wolf, +17 16. I always heard that matchup was even or slight Luigi adv? 2 years ago. This means you can have diddy in up b, clank with banana, and can side b or even down b diddy out of it. Game and Watch - Is light and Pit has decent kill power to win easily. Pac-Man. Diddy Kong is a quick, middleweight character. Every SSBU matchup chart is a source of valuable information - players can understand where their character is especially strong and where they potentially may have problems. Diddy can play past mid range, to where he remains out of reach. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, TFW Shulk's Frames are as long as Xenoblade Chronicles, https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo/status/894442882857349120, https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo/status/894446725846507520. Matchup Chart: https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo/status/894442882857349120, Some Explanation: https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo/status/894446725846507520. Pit, +14 17. Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros community! That level of downloading his opponent is why ZeRo was and still is such a consistent threat in smash 4. Super Smash Bros. Marth/Lucina are good examples, since they only have the tools to interact at mid-close range. Ridley - Is slow when recovering and Pit can jump over neutral B, fair when Ridley side Bs and just better options. Cookies help us deliver our Services. They're so easily gimped by PKT1 and yoyo it feels terrible for them sometimes. Diddys best performance would be that one time zinoto got 2nd at ceo. The Guest vs Streetshark. Fun fact: Bowser's up b can clank almost laglessly with banana. RR down throw – up tilt – uair, uair is a very effective combo. https://twitter.com/MVG_dyr/status/872734412873617408, I'm posting this because this has a lot of interesting stuff. Top 3 . When I say this, most people brush me off, and that's perfectly fair, but I wish people would be more open-minded about all characters. Diddy Kong score: -28 30.00 % upvotes Rosalina And Luma score: -30 28.57 % upvotes Duck Hunt score: -30 26.56 % upvotes Mario score: -31 32.18 % upvotes Pac-Man score: ... Rip Sephiroth matchup, you just can't outrange him. Even if he was to act after the hitstun and dair, Bowser has heavy armor on uair. Pretty interesting. That chart is flawed on the yoshi- Ganon matchup, yoshi has an unescapable chaingrab that can lead into a spike on him, so the small check should definitely be a big one. It means that losing in neutral once or twice has far more grave implications than losing once or twice to a Sonic or a Mewtwo. Diddy Kong This kong's back, and about time too! can he explain what he means by sheik having the same/equal killpower to fox? Mr. Game & Watch, +21 13. I personally think Mewtwo and Olimar are as bad for Robin as everyone thinks Diddy Kong is. Bowser and DKs grabs and Ryus true shoryu are top finishers that will routinely kill at 70%, I think his designations are fine. I do like how he goes in depth into the matchups rather than just giving us numbers, though. Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Wolf, +17 16. Take into consideration ZeRo is looking at this from a top level perspective. ZeRo making Diddy look like only a high tier lol. Donkey Kong Match-Up is a Memory Match-up activity on the Play Nintendo website. One of the many things I'll give ZeRo a lot of credit for is his uncanny ability to almost switch up his playstyle for any top player/character MU. Dyr's Match-up chart for Diddy Kong ... Sonic is Diddy worst Match-up, Diddy loses to Pacman and some other stuff that I don't immediately notice. Tier List / Matchup Chart. True Mu Spread . I remember Dath saying he felt like he just couldn't do anything any time Diddy got him off stage. I find how he looks that the game very fascinating. 20. For now, here's the full Super Smash Bros. … He makes it known that pretty much no matchup is a clear-cut win or lose in this game, because of rage and volatile options and stuff. Diddy Kong - His options aren't that good against Pit and Pit can gimp him fairly easy. 70% Upvoted. Posted by. I consider it a mechanism to keep me humble, because no one can be proud when his excuse is "I lost because I tripped." Close. Matchup Chart: Some Explanation: Very unique take on a match up chart. I feel Robin doesn't lose that badly. Meanwhile, ZSS ladder is her top finisher. For example, why would Mario be viewed as a match up that Diddy consistently wins? First time a top player doesn't automatically assume they beat Robin handily and I disagree. I feel most people would only rank Diddy high tier if it wasn't for zeros results. Wario, +27 12. Over time, pro players and Press J to jump to the feed. JOIN OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/YdpdvawSUBMIT YOUR CLIPS: https://goo.gl/forms/IefQ3Qs0CGJXpZmF3Super Smash Bros. Ivysaur is a pain, especially considering all of their aerials are fast and powerful. For now, though, I'll still post this. Most Tinks consider that MU even af, no clue what's going on there, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. A Rank: - Ness - Sonic - Yoshi - Fox - Diddy Kong his recent set with lima in losers semis of LTC5 is a great example of ZeRo's amazing adaptation skills. While fox is better at it than shiek, if you look at a few characters you can see that they both have significantly more problems and perhaps almost enough to be grouped into the same killpower category. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time. Peach, +8 19. Donkey Kong: 1 Semi-Rare Pikachu: 1 Common: Peach: 1 Semi-Common Marth: 1 Rare Yoshi: 1 Uncommon Villager (Upcoming Restock Toys R Us Exclusive) 1 Unicorn Wii Fit Trainer: 1 Unicorn Diddy Kong… "Robin loses slightly to Diddy"That's really generous. These matchup numbers are based off 14,478 games featuring Diddy Kong in the SSB World database. He is capable of wall clinging and crawling. Fox, +11 18. 222 votes, 83 comments. i think doc only loses -1, and i also don't get why sonic is +2 against diddy. Not to mention we can survive diddy's kill confirms for a really long time and dtilt upsmash doesn't kill until around 135-140%. Diddy Kong's matchup chart Tell me if you agree or not. This page collects community and professional Super Smash Ultimate Tier Lists of the best characters to use in Smash Bros. Archived. Latest: Coconut Shotgun from DK64 and Dash Attack from DK Country Turk Injaydii, Apr 21, 2016. Ultimate - Bowser matchup chart To get to know this character better, take a look at our guide on Bowser’s move list . yeah, he probably just needs more experience against the top pacs because there is no way diddy loses that MU lol. Since the "think tanks" of the two characters may not agree, there may be a slightly different number listed as the opposite matchup. Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros community! Bowser’s able to get in some quick KO’s on Diddy. It's not just "oh this character has tools to exploit another one's weaknesses and thus he wins 65-35," the chart tiers several individual losing/even Diddy MUs differently taking into account factors like rage, neutral capabilities, and momentum -- not just cut and dry ratios. I'd agree if Diddy didn't have 2 spammable projectiles. Diddy … Dertolo's Diddy Kong MU Chart. Yoshi, -5 24. Bowser lowkey counters Diddy. Diddy Kong Matchups. maybe because sonic is the only character who can go toe to toe with diddy on FD, but i don't see sonic winning that hard on any stage. « Previous: Diddy Kong . save hide report. Mario - similar placements on the tier list, but has more practical killing options. It's cool to see that Bowser is only +1. One of the many things I'll give ZeRo a lot of credit for is his uncanny ability to almost switch up his playstyle for any top player/character MU. cuz almost everything points to it being the opposite. Messages: 39. Kirby, +6 20. — The weighted average score of the match-up. Pokémon Trainer, -19 27. R.O.B, -1 22. Diddy kong mu chart. See the win percentage for Diddy Kong vs every character matchup in Smash 4. King Dedede, +35 10. (Unless I'm forgetting something?). Ness - back throw, back air, the "falling up smash" up air, and down smash all kill before most of fox's options(not factoiring in luck/ladders for either characters - yes a fox can string up airs to kill early off he top, but Ness has the fair kills of the sides in some situations. We'll be sure to update this guide in the coming weeks and months as more matchup information and meta details become available. The chart is subject to change and current as of June 29, 2012 To use it, choose a character from the left side. Mario, Rosa, and Lucario are pretty much even, Toon Link is not a free win, Diddy can out camp Pac man(even mu most likely), Falco, Doc, and Mac should not be slept on, Toon Link????????????? Ness, -29 29. Quality content from ZeRo. Also a bit of inconsistency, like calling Toon link free, saying a Diddy only loses to a Tink/Villager if the Diddy player doesnt know the MU, but also listing Sonic as a potential -2 for Diddy even though thats clearly a case of dyr not knowing the MU (which Meteor calls him out on). as the set progressed, ZeRo went from back and forth last hit matches to straight up not getting touched by lima. Ultimate. That characters are displayed in the corresponding row. Switch Diddy out with any high/top tier without a projectile, and I agree. Latest: Bowser's 4.0bc Matchup Chart Mimsy, Jan 18, 2017. Not really, as he goes in depth about why it's a harder MU for Puff, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Maybe you can switch Fox with Peach, but the purple group has earned their spot in that tier. Diddy Kong, +36 9. Diddy’s jab 1 and 2 have enough hitstun to keep Bowser unable to do anything. Donkey Kong, -10 26. Sheik, +2 21. Diddy Kong's Latest Smash Ultimate Battles - 226 Videos. Super Smash Bros. Melee: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The July 2015 Reddit Smash Bros 4 Tier List Results: S Rank: - Sheik - Rosalina & Luma. I feel like the one starting with ZSS should be swapped aroind with the one starting with Mario considering he says the ones in the ZSS group, diddy overall wins the matchup but the characters starting with Mario are even, Naa, the former group is more important than the latter due to Smash 4 factor, More often that not, playing smart and safe will result in Diddy beating the characters in that last group as he can outplay them in neutral consistently and has a more reliable confirm. Those are characters that can lose again and again in neutral but are never really out of it, Falcons up air-> knee isnt the most consistent confirm, Marios arent landing Fair spikes and Up B rage kills every set. Like, Sonic is Diddy worst Match-up, Diddy loses to Pacman and some other stuff that I don't immediately notice. For a Diddy of ZeRos caliber, characters with early kill factors are scarier to a character like Diddy than similarly even characters. Many of his attacks have good speed and have decent power to back them. Jan. 2018 Diddy MU Chart. Smash 4. This thread is archived. Luigi is 55-45 in Diddy's favor at worst. Its possible for characters in the last group to secure early kills but its significantly harder than the characters in the group starting with ZSS. In particular, it feels like everyone thinks Robin is locked to mid tier, that Cloud is locked to top tier, that Palutena is locked to low tier, that GW is locked to low tier, that Ness is locked to high tier, etc etc etc etc etc. A+ Rank: - Luigi - Pikachu - Zero Suit Samus. 32 comments. I've gotta say, I really love this. RSS. Ike, -6 25. I thought it was agreed on that Mario & Olimar had good MUs vs Diddy? Super Smash Bros.: # = % chance of winning against opponent. Mario, -33 Dyr's Match-up chart for Diddy Kong. Each Smash Ultimate Bowser counter has been placed in one of five categories - from the best counters for Bowser and gradually to the worst for him. His KO power is low due to his few KO moves and a general weakness in his smashes, which stalevery quickly if he uses them too much for racking damage, which forces a reliance on meteor smashes for early KOs. Sonic, -4 23. votes — Total number of votes this match-up has received. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Toon Link, +20 15. Next: Dr. Mario » Legend Tot. Match avg. Very unique take on a match up chart. But I guess the bottomline to the Robin Diddy MU is that Robin loses to some degree; the amount is debatable but also less significant. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Unfortunately, it's been getting increasingly inaccurate, and I'm beginning to create my own matachup chart. This is the matchup chart I use. What he says about the characters in both ores are true in a top level perspective, but maybe mid level, Fox, Sonic, and Mario players probably trounce Diddy players. share. I honestly feel like Robin vs. Diddy is a lost cause for everyone after Dath got stomped at Shine, and no one is willing to investigate it again. Discussions: 4 Messages: 25. RSS. Published on December 24, 2018. Or that Pacman beats diddy 55/45, even though this clearly has the potential to be inspired by his own salty loss to Sinji, (which @Kiwi_burd calls out), Not saying he doesnt know anything, but that some of his logic is a bit flawed/biased and the Pac-Man placement looks like Johns, PacMan is such a hard character to place though due to massive but difficult to achieve skill ceiling, Fox has some trouble killing, not quite as much as Sheik but more so than most characters since he doesn't have reliable kill confirms. u/Aaron1997. It would be clever to train more with the opponents from the disadvantage groups - take them to the Training Mode or Smash against CPU. He does get low percent kills with fair-footstools but people are learning how to avoid them, and at higher percents getting kills gets harder due to his throws not leading into any kill moves (or themselves killing), I could be wrong on some of this though since I haven't played Smash 4 in a while, if any of this is wrong let me know. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. That's just absurd. inb4 every top player picks up Pac-Man as a secondary for Zero's Diddy. Damn. Spat MU chart of Diddy, 10/0/17. I don't play Robin but it seems bad. He has plenty of moves that kill but it's hard to confirm into them, a lot of times you'll need something like a PP uptilt into up air which isn't guaranteed. I really think this list needs some tweeking. It's all a true combo if done right. Fox and Sonic are good examples as well. Ultimate stream highlights feat. King Dedede, +35 10. Lucario, +20 13. 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